Friendship Alliance engaged Dr. Siamak Ardekani, PhD, P.E. of University Texas at Arlington to provide Traffic Impact Analysis re: the Mark Black Wedding Venue project, Agenda Item F, for the City of Dripping Springs Planning & Zoning Commissioners on January 23, 2018.
Cristian Granucci, City of Los Angeles Fire Captain and a resident of Goldenwood subdivision, spoke to the City of Dripping Springs Planning & Zoning commissioners on January 23, 2018 about evacuation logistics and fire safety as impacted by the proposed Mark Black Wedding Venue project. The project accommodates up to 600 wedding guest in two buildings. Hundreds of families already resident rely on a single 20-foot wide unlit winding county road as a sole lifeline to RR1826 in the event of an emergency evacuation.
Cristian Granucci has served 28 years in the fire department, with deep experience fighting wild land fires. As a resident who lives close to the proposed project, he has seen the dense fuel loads, including juniper trees, as well as the size and condition of existing roads that serve hundreds of residents.
His analysis of current conditions is certainly sobering.
Dear Mayor Purcell,
Mayor Pro Tem Bill Foulds,
and Councilmembers Manassian, Crow, King and Kroll,
We are concerned about the many issues still to be resolved re the Mark Black Wedding Venue (MBWV) project. Namely:
- Project plans most recently resubmitted by the Applicant to the City still do not address previously noted water quality ordinance violations. Recognized, professional engineering experts engaged by Friendship Alliance (FA) have shown that the water drainage/water treatment design of the MBWV continues to violate City ordinances and engineering design code adopted by the City itself. The City is compelled to comply with its own codes and ordinances, even if there is the threat of possible lawsuits by the applicant. The City should deny the Applicant its development permit because the latter has consistently submitted deficient engineering design and has not provided sufficient evidence of calculations and methods.
- The Applicant did not adequately respond to technical comments requested by the City and stemming from the technical objections raised by Friendship Alliance on February 20.
- The City Council should inform FA of any feedback given to the mayor and councilmembers by the City Engineer concerning the FA technical/engineering comments, in the same way the City informs the Applicant of comments received by FA. This communication should take place well before the City Council meeting on March 13, 2018.
- The City Council should allow public comments about the MBWV on March 13, 2018 because the Applicant has systematically failed to abide by city ordinances and professional engineering code. As long as unresolved issues continue to be unaddressed, the public and especially all affected residents should be allowed to freely express their views about the design of the MBWV and its impact on the neighborhoods and the neighbors who live there now, some of whom have lived in for up to 35 years.
- The City Council should allow public comments on March 13 about the MBWV by the recognized professional engineering experts who provided their feedback to FA.
- Health and safety issues re emergency egress on an inadequate road as shown by FA’s traffic engineer expert have yet to be resolved by the Applicant.
- The size (600-guest total capacity) and design of the MBWV are not consistent with Crystal Hills Drive and the spiritual makeup of the surrounding existing neighborhoods.
- The Applicant has not made any written commitments / concessions to neighbors concerns, despite the fact that his project will overload Crystal Hills Drive beyond accepted levels of vehicular traffic service, will impair any fire evacuation efforts, and will forever disrupt the peaceful and spiritual communities around his property.
City of Dripping Springs City Council
511 Mercer Street
Dripping Springs, Texas 78620
Dear Honorable Mayor Todd Purcell:
The three engineers previously engaged by The Friendship Alliance (FA) for this project have reviewed the Mark Black Wedding Venue (MBWV) design documents submitted with a letter from Kimley-Horn dated February 19, 2018. These documents were produced by the applicant in response to the February 12, 2018 letter from Dripping Springs’s (DS) City Engineer, Mr. Chad Gilpin, which included five “specific items that are being requested by the City to be included in the Site Development Plan Set and/or Engineering Report to address the FA letters”. Four reports from FA engineers were also referenced, which were provided to Kimley-Horn by the City.
The FA engineers (Brian Dudley, P.E., Lauren Ross, PhD, P.E., and Jeff Kessel, P.E.) have determined that the newly produced Kimley-Horn materials are unresponsive to the City Engineer’s letter and the other engineering review reports referenced therein. The deficiencies that remain in the Site Plan are summarized below in the order of the comments contained in the City Engineer’s letter, dated February 19, 2018. Additional details are provided in the attached FA engineers’ reports. The project remains materially out of compliance with the City ordinance provisions listed at the end of this letter.
Items requested by the City are listed below and followed by our summary review comments:
- Final design for Curb Inlet/Bay‐Filter system that you volunteered to add to address a specific FA concern. Basic design was previously shown in supplemental data.
Sheet 41: Curbs adjacent to inlets need to be labeled and the drainage area serving the curb inlets needs to be correctly delineated (including the handicapped parking area downgrade from BF-1 and the roadway containing a ditchline downgrade from BF-2).
In reviewing the Bay Filter performance tables on Sheets 37, 38 and 43 (2 places), the TSS results are different in every one of the tables. Also when compared to the 12/18/2017 Plan set, the same areas, IC and results show up in the various tables. The filter system has not been redesigned even though K-H said that BF-2 would have to be “upsized” with the added curb inlets (2/12/18 letter). Also, nowhere do we find any required stormwater storage calculations that are discussed in the Guidance Manual Appendix that was part of K-H’s resubmittal. Thus, the added curb inlet system has not been engineered as proposed by K-H or as required by the WQP ordinance.
Other deficiencies are listed in both Dr. Ross’ attached letter and her February 17 letter. These have not been addressed by the resubmittal and additional engineering is necessary for compliance with City of DS’s Ordinance.
- Clarification of the pollutant load removal efficiency of the Bay Filter units you are proposing.
The Technical Guidance Manual that was provided details design and calculation methods including pretreatment, bypass, stormwater storage and filtration. The Application does not contain complete calculations and the design features described in this manual. See also comment in No 1 above. Information on the Flexstorm product was included, but it is not apparent how this project may use this product. Dr. Ross’ attached letter further describes limitations of some of the provided resources.
- Oil/Grease and Phosphorus removal back up calculations including VFS areas per BMP sub-basin.
Dr. Ross’ attached letter lists a number of factors that have not been properly considered or designed which result in the project failing to meet the 90% removal of the increase in Total Suspended Solids and Total Phosphorous.
- Existing vs Proposed condition hydrograph(s) to clarify your statement of “no increased flow resulting from proposed conditions”. In addition, provide discussion elaborating on the “improved conditions of site vegetation” after development and resulting curve numbers.
The Engineer’s selected points of analysis (along the downstream creek channel) are too far from the drainage systems that would be most affected by the proposed development. In particular, the drainage channel immediately below the developed Venue A site will be subject to larger volumes of runoff, over longer flow durations as a consequence of the added impervious cover. The City’s water quality code (22.05.019 (e) is written to protect these on-site drainage ways from the erosive effects of the increase flow volumes and velocities. The Engineer’s updated plans do not comply with this code requirement. His original calculation was not done per code at this location or using the proper design storm as outlined in my original review comments (Feb 19), and this comment was not addressed in his recent (Feb 26) response. Applying this WQ code, we estimate a much lower allowable peak flowrate than that implied by K-H estimates near this location, by a factor of 10. In my opinion the natural drainage channel in Drainage Area 2 (PR-2) will be subject to a significantly higher erosion potential under the proposed conditions than under today’s conditions. A drainage analysis is required for this channel using the 2 year, 3 hour storm information and demonstrating a flow rate a prescribed in the ordinance.
Other analysis concerns, including additional engineering design needed for the temporary sedimentation ponds, are contained in Jeff Kessel’s attached letter. Dr. Ross’ letter contains information supporting use of more appropriate curve numbers in the drainage analyses.
- Updated roadway typical section with notes and symbology to clarify your stated intent to place topsoil and revegetation up to the edge of pavement.
This is a nonstandard design as 2.5 inches of topsoil over compacted crushed stone is not a sufficient root zone to establish vegetation and create conditions significantly different from impervious cover. With calculations and maintenance provisions it may qualify for partial area credit towards the impervious cover percentage.
Because of limitations, errors, and calculation omissions listed above and in described in reports from our engineers, the design and alleged performance has not been demonstrated and is not verifiable. The Site Plan remains out of compliance with:
- 05.015 Performance Standards
- 90% Removal of 3 Constituents (Section (c)(3)), and
- 05.019 Erosive Flow Control
- Stormwater discharge into a waterway (Section (e)).
Additionally, until BF-2 is engineered to filter water captured by the curb inlets, the design is out of compliance with:
- 05.016 Impervious Cover
- Impervious cover downstream from water quality controls (Section (f)), and
- 05.019 Erosive Flow Control
- Untreated runoff over a CEF (Section (a)).
Finally, the impervious cover calculations require revision using innovative method credits to demonstrate compliance with:
- 05.016 Impervious Cover
- 10% Impervious Cover Limit (Sections (a)-(e)).
In sum, the newly produced materials only serve to confirm that the Applicant’s design fails in numerous material respects to comply with the City’s own ordinances, which the City itself is required by state law to enforce. We remain seriously concerned about these engineering deficiencies and resulting regulatory noncompliance by the proposed Mark Black Wedding Venue. Supporting reports prepared by engineering experts are attached, and objections raised in their previous reports, which were attached to our February 19, 2018 letter, persist as significant problems that have not been addressed at all, much less adequately addressed by the Applicant.
Based on the engineering deficiencies and proposed code/ordinance violations associated with this project, which are again confirmed by the newly produced materials, the Application should be denied, as Kimley-Horn has already been granted more than sufficient time to achieve compliance. If additional revisions are made by Kimley-Horn, we respectfully request that we be given sufficient “quality” time to verify and vet those revisions.
Finally, pursuant to state law and the City’s own procedures, please also accept this letter as a formal request by The Friendship Alliance to submit public comments at the next City Council meeting with respect to the late filed materials produced last Monday at 5 p.m., which were required to have been furnished by the Applicant prior to the last city council meeting. Unfortunately, through no fault of anyone except the Applicant, Kimley-Horn did not timely furnish any of these materials or other data necessary to correct previous deficiencies. However, the omission deprived citizens of the legal right to comment on those materials.
Accordingly, please advise us in writing before 5 p.m. on Wednesday, March 7, 2018, whether the City will allow public comment at the March 13, 2018 City Council meeting regarding the newly furnished materials.
We thank you for your consideration of this letter requesting that the application be denied, or alternatively, that any decision by the City be postponed in order to bring his project into regulatory compliance with the City’s own ordinances and state law.
If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me.
Carlos Torres-Verdin, Ph.D.
President, The Friendship Alliance, Inc.
Brian Dudley, P.E.
City of Dripping Springs’ Council Members, Michelle Fischer, Ginger Faught, Chad Gilpin, P.E.
Here are the reviews from two professional environmental engineers hired by Friendship Alliance to provide the further analyses of revisions to the Mark Black Wedding Venue site development plan permit application provided to the City of Dripping Springs.
Protest at Terry Black’s BBQ on Barton Springs Road. Protesters unhappy with the BBQ owners developing 2 wedding venues on a 64 acre lot they purchased in Dripping Springs.
Posted by KVUE on Monday, February 19, 2018
A big name in Central Texas BBQ wants to build a wedding venue near Dripping Springs, but the development's future is in limbo.Brittany Glas reports on the face-off between Terry Black's family and area homeowners on KXAN at 10: kxan.com/live-stream?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook_KXAN_News
Posted by KXAN News on Tuesday, January 23, 2018
Here are the reviews from two professional environmental engineers hired by Friendship Alliance to provide the further analyses of revisions to the Mark Black Wedding Venue site development plan permit application provided to the City of Dripping Springs. These reviews were submitted in February.
We received an email full of bracing information. Thank you, Mr. Simanton, for writing to Friendship Alliance. We appreciate your time, and we are grateful for your insights. In full:
Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 4:06 PM
I was at the Dripping Springs City Council meeting last night [February 13, 2018] to support your efforts to control the development of a large wedding venue in your neighborhood. I had planned to speak if needed, but it seems you had quite a few folks wanting to speak.
But, you may ask, who am I and why do I want to support you and speak out on your behalf? I do not live anywhere near your neighborhood, nor do I really know anyone in your neighborhood other than the nice folks I met at the council meeting.
I want to support your cause because I have painful, first-hand knowledge of what happens when a wedding venue moves into your neighborhood. Two wedding venues opened up near my land. One is next door to my land, the other is a little over half a mile away. So I have experience with both very close and nearby wedding venues. I don’t want others to suffer the way my neighbors and I have.
Here is what you can expect:
1. Noise. Remember those quiet weekend nights where you can sit on the porch and look at the stars, listen to the breeze in the trees, hear the sounds of nature? I say “remember” because you will no longer get to enjoy those nights. Even if the venue close to me is not having an event, the one further away is still so loud we can hear music, yelling, hooting, hollering, traffic, car alarms, arguments in the parking lot, buses backing up, loud bass noise bumping through your bones…I could go on. Again, that place is half a mile from me, over a hill, and it is STILL loud.
Even after we sued the venues to keep all their music INSIDE (the suit is still ongoing) and they have mostly complied, you still get the bass noise, which travels for miles. And of course you get the yelling, the hooting, hollering and general idiocy of drunk city folks out in the country. How many cars will there be? Each one will give you the “beep-beep” or “honk” whenever someone locks or unlocks the vehicle. Buses and trucks will beeep-beeep-beeep when backing up, and some back up for a loooong time. I recorded one that had the backup alarm going for over 5 minutes.
A side note on noise: Like most venues, Mark Black has promised to keep it “under 85 decibels” Why is this? Because 85 decibels is a criminal statute. They THINK that they can legally do anything up to 85 decibels with no repercussions. But noise at 50 decibels 200 feet from our house can easily be heard inside our house, quite loudly. 85 decibels is like someone running a chainsaw 10 feet from your head. It is LOUD. Call them out on this when they mention the 85 db number.
2. Drunks. What do people do at weddings? They drink. A LOT. They get loud. They yell. They hoot. They argue. They fight. They break bottles on the road. And they drive, while drunk, on your roads.
3. Traffic. Buses LOVE to block roads. For some reason, bus drivers think it is perfectly acceptable to load, unload or even park right in the middle of a road. Sometimes they pull a little off to the side so you can get around them, where you cannot see oncoming traffic. Sometimes they park in front of your mailboxes, or your driveway. Or they turn around and run over plants and things on your property…but if you aren’t there to see it and take pictures, you have no proof.
Then there are the hundreds of cars. They tend to drive and park where they please. They love to rev their engines, especially the city kids with 4WD trucks when they encounter any kind of hill. And they are often piloted by people who have been drinking. Don’t let your children go anywhere near the roads on weekends. Don’t jog or walk your dogs along the roads on weekends. And hope your animals don’t ever get out of the fence.
4. Strangers. I think this actually bothers me the most. What good is a neighborhood and knowing your neighbors when HUNDREDS of complete strangers are allowed to invade your neighborhood each week? They don’t care about your neighborhood. They litter, make noise, destroy property and then have the audacity to yell at you to be quiet when you try to mow your lawn on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon.
And they trespass. We have good fences, signs and gates, yet we still have “adventurous” wedding guests come on our land and even try to get in our house. Maybe they do just want to “pet the donkeys”, but in my experience, city folks have little respect for rural property. Sheds and cabins on our property seem to be a magnet for bored wedding guests, often of the teenage type. (Admittedly, I was probably like this when I was a teen boy, so I know how they are.)
I could probably come up with even more reasons to fight a venue nearby, but I think this is enough. Note that these are only 150 person (next door) and 250 person (1/2 mile away, over a hill) venues. I cannot imagine how disturbing a 600 person venue would be. You have my sympathy, and you have my help if needed. …Please share this email with the Friendship Alliance, you may post it on your web site if you wish. If possible, have someone read at least an excerpt from the list above to help convince the council to delay the permit until Mark Black et al has addressed all of these issues. I’m convinced that there are probably good wedding venues that do respect their neighbors, but my experience is not proof of that.
You can never get your peace back once it is gone.
I wish you the best.
Dripping Springs, TX 78620
Originally printed here:
Regarding the article: Protests grow as wedding venue sets to open in residential area
My advice to Friendship Alliance is: stop them; stop them at all cost.
We live in a residential area where several years after we moved here a wedding venue was quietly built right next to our property. We also heard the same kind of rhetoric from the owners about community concerns and operating the venue on a low-key basis with strict rules. Once they were established, it became obvious there was very little concern for the residents. Their focus was to grow the business.
Now, delivery and trash trucks are frequent, busses park near our property and continuously run through the event duration. Litter along the roads has increased. Noise levels are no longer monitored and “supposed” restrictions are not enforced. Most importantly, residential property values fell. No one wants to live next to or near a wedding/event venue!
Michael & Mark Black say they are giving “heavy” consideration to community concerns but the article in the News-Dispatch raises serious red flags about their intentions.